Meditation – differences?

reflexer 2 augusti 2011Fortsättning följer…

flagga svenskJag hörde en präst säga. ”Det är ett bra ställe. De ger en gedigen utbildning i meditation… så att det inte lämnar den kristna förankringen och förlorar sig i flum, nyandlighet.”

Vad är det för skillnad mellan kristen meditation och annan meditation? Vad är det för ”flum” prästen är orolig för? Jag ska fråga men behöver avvakta ett litet tag först.)

To be continued…

flagga brittiskI heard a priest say. ”… it´s a good place. They give a proper and thorough education in meditation … so they don´t go astray from the christian path and get lost in woolliness, newage.”

What is the difference between christian meditation and other meditation? What kind of ”woolly” is the priest worried about?

I´ll ask – but I´ll wait a while. Meanwhile I´ll check the references in the Wikipedia site.

In wikipedia I find following:
”The word meditation comes from the Latin word meditārī, which has a range of meanings including to reflect on, to study and to practice.”
”Both in Eastern and Western Christianity meditation is the middle level in a broad three-stage characterization of prayer: it involves more reflection than first level vocal prayer, but is more structured than the multiple layers of contemplative prayer

”In Aspects of Christian meditation, the Holy See warned of potential incompatibilities in mixing Christian and non-Christian styles of meditation.”(ref: Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith Letter on certain aspects of Christian meditation (in English), October 15, 1989)

So meditation is considered to be some kind of prayer, different from contemplative prayer.

I´ll read more, more carefully and check the references – but so far it seems like the Vatican is overgeneralizing, finding a difference that isn´t there – mere a temptation to go astray into exstasy and selfishness which I found – so far, is a difficulty not to get hooked in wheater you are a Christian or not.
I found no intentions of selfishness or extasy in the lamas practising mahayana buddhism. So far I have understood  that they stresses to put altrusim and serving mankind as the main intention you mustn´t lose while practising meditation. Love and compassion are guides and companions during the exercises and during your daily life in serving mankind. But in order to be able to do so, you have to take care of your own issues first. (frustrations, dissapointments, pride, needs etc.) So you don´t contaminate, doing more harm than good, out of sheer lack of selfawareness. (As a parenthesis I can tell you that it took me a couple of years to be able to recognize my own pride for instance, and how it is related to my wish and expectations on myself in doing a god job, to be the good servant, a worthy member of the society, etc…)
But – who am I to tell? I may simply be too ignorant – so far.

I have checked some sites through Zamanta. The entrance into meditation differs a lot. A lot of the sites use ”feel good, release stress…” as an argument for meditating. Many use it as a way to get in contact with God for guidance. In some of the sites there are arguments to and forth different ”ways” of meditation, for instance about the christian way. In the described differences between meditations practises I also might find some ”incompatibilities” adding up to the vaticans description.

The site I found with the tempting message ”getting high at no costs” makes the christian priests worst worries come true though, I will not name it, because I think it was a reversed spamtrap, completely unserious.


Wikireferences are:

  • Simple Ways to Pray by Emilie Griffin 2005 ISBN 0-7425-5084-2 page 134
  • Christian spirituality in the Catholic tradition by Jordan Aumann 1985 Ignatius Press ISBN 0-89870-068-X page 180
  • Orthodox prayer life: the interior way by Mattá al-Miskīn 2003 ISBN 0-88141-250-3 St Vladimir Press, ”Chapter 2: Degrees of Prayer” pages 39-42 [1]
  • The art of prayer: an Orthodox anthology by Igumen Chariton 1997 ISBN 0-571-19165-7 pages 63-65
  • EWTN: Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith Letter on certain aspects of Christian meditation (in English), October 15, 1989
  • Los Angeles Times, February 8, 2003 New Age Beliefs Aren’t Christian, Vatican Finds
  • BBC Feb 4, 2003 Vatican sounds New Age alert
  • Vatican website

Related articles found through Zamanta

Well, I found a site that probably showed the priests worst worries come true – but I suspect it was a site set up only to get my adress – no serious new age. So I´ll be spammed!




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